The only difference is that this time around you must have 20 of both requested ingredients. You are again sent to collect 20 Dragon's Tongues and 20 Redwort Flowers if you committed theft, or 20 Daedra Hearts and 20 Vampire Dusts for murder. Second OffenseДЄfter your second offense the procedure is nearly identical to the first offense. Another catch is that the ten duplicated versions of the ingredients will be considered stolen items, but Raminus will accept stolen ingredients just as readily as legally obtained ones. One catch is that you will officially be trespassing to get to the Arch-Mage's Quarters - even though there is never anybody upstairs in the tower to catch you, it does mean that you cannot wait upstairs to pass the time. If you were Arch-Mage when you were expelled from the guild, you can still use the Enchanted Chest to duplicate ingredients.

Vampires can be found in various Vampire Dungeons.

Raminus will only accept standard Vampire Dust (not the rare Vampire Dust found on Bloodcrust Vampires).

Brittlerock Cave and Conjurer Dungeons are other locations where hearts may be acquired.

Dremora are easiest to find before you have completed the Main Quest, or just check near or inside any Oblivion Gates.

Starting at level 12, alchemy stores may randomly stock them, but you will probably have to wait for enough to spawn.

There are also 11 Dragon's Tongue plants here.

21 plants are on the shore of a swamp that is located just above the 'd' in 'Blackwood' on the map (these are easiest to find if you have installed the Knights of the Nine plugin then there are 25 at the entrance to Fort Bulwark).

Alchemy stores may randomly stock them, but you will probably have to wait for enough to spawn.

14 plants can be found just southwest of the entrance to Fort Irony.

6 plants are on the shore of a swamp that is located just above the 'd' in 'Blackwood' on the map.

Look along the path and on the north shore of the inlet to the Lower Niben.

Enough flowers are scattered south of Bravil to cover the 20 needed.

21 plants are near the entrance to Fort Redwater.

The following list provides only a couple possible suggestions. Once you have collected enough, return to Raminus Polus to turn in your ingredients and be reinstated.ДЇull details on where to find each of the ingredients are provided on the individual ingredient pages. On your first offense, there is actually a glitch that allows you to collect 20 of just one of the two required items, although you will lose whatever you have collected so far of the second required item. For murder, you need to acquire 20 Vampire Dusts and 20 Daedra Hearts. If your crime was a theft, you need to acquire 20 Dragon's Tongues and 20 Redwort Flowers.

Raminus will give you a small lecture about how disappointed he is and then offer a chance for redemption. At this point, guild members will often start to direct you to Raminus Polus.

As soon as the offense is committed, the Mages Guild Key is removed from your inventory and you are moved outside if the offense was committed on guild property. Theft is only treated as an offense if it is detected but murder is always counted, even if you have 100% Chameleon in effect at the time. It seems that it was intended to include assault as a punishable crime but the necessary scripts are commented out.Unlike in the Thieves Guild, however, assault is not counted as a crime and only theft and murder will cause a suspension.

Upon joining the guild you are presented with a copy of the Mages Guild Charter, which states that any crime committed against a guild member results in suspension.

Collect alchemy samples and hand them over to regain your standing.

After breaking a rule of the Mages Guild, you are told to talk to Raminus Polus.

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